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why talk if they want to hurt me??

To find out why.

To come to an understanding? Solve problems?

4:17 PM

Tulpas are people, treat them that way

Tulpa should be your friend(or atleast neutral), not some evil mastermind.

Usually when tulpas act this way it's because the host is influencing them

(I can't help but imagine Plankton brain controlling Spongebob.)

4:20 PM

Sorry, ill see meself out...

4:20 PM

xD

If a host thinks of their tulpa of being a certain way, the tulpa will be inclined to be like that, usually if they are undeveloped (edited)

[Once they reach a certain point, they actively resist any and all changes. Or at least I do.]

We even do that to our host sometimes, unintentionally

wtf how do I change tulplas?

Sigh

I my host cant change or puppet me etc, same as @Biscuit

4:27 PM

But i am 5.5 years old

[I'd say I'm close to that age. We settled on May 17, 2013 as my birth date.]

Tulpas change like people do, ie time and experience

im 13 how can I fix my tulpas?

That's too young for tulpas imo

4:29 PM

And you're kinda proving that

[21 years old is a good minimum.]

We started at 16 and probably weren't old enough

wtf

@duck tulpas are people

Hi, Sen. That's enough shitposting.

like, really @duck , the best advice we can give you is, talk to them and figure stuff out. Come to some understanding, and an agreement besides. If you can't take this advice there's not much else to do here

https://ekmillerlab.mit.edu/2016/12/08/earl-miller-in-the-daily-mail-uk-why-multitasking-is-bad-for-your-brain/ It is true that Winter is not a neuroscientist, however Miller is. He claims that the brain has a certain capacity that cannot be overloaded, and describes multitasking as switching between tasks. Besides, Winter did not call you a liar. I am sure that she does believe that you feel you are experiencing this, and does not think you are being intentionally dishonest about this. She is simply trying to find a reason why you are experiencing this, even though it does not correlate with what science claims the brain is capable of. The explanation that she suggests is that your brain generates these memories that did not happen because you feel as if you should have these memories. So, please refrain from being hositle and acting like you were personally called a liar and insulted. (edited)

Miller Lab

Earl Miller in The Daily Mail (UK): Why multitasking is BAD for yo...

Why multitasking is BAD for your brain: Neuroscientist warns it wrecks productivity and causes mistakes Earl Miller has advised that people should avoid multitasking altogether Switching between ta…

4:59 PM

@Edou-Chan~ @SkyeNet

Yes. This is correct. I absolutely believe, @Edou-Chan~, that you feel you experience everything. What I am saying is that this is very unlikely to be what the brain is literally doing.

and we call that an opinion

your brain generates these memories that did not happen because you feel as if you should have these memories. Basically what happened to us

You can call it an opinion, I call it reality.

It isn't my opinion that the brain is bad at multitasking to the described degree. It is something that has been tested, repeatedly.

which is your opinion and fair to do

5:06 PM

im not talking about multi tasking

Her opinion is backed up by facts..

theories arnt facts

"That's your opinion" is hardly a rebuttal

no, my wall of text earlier was a rebuttal

If you could prove it wrong, I would love it. That's why I said I would look forward to a brain scan showing that your claim of actively daydreaming while the host simultaneously acts is unlikely to be the literal truth of what is happening.

It is multitasking for the brain to do this be doing two things at once. You even mentioned you were good at multitasking earlier, which I am unsure of why you would mention it if you do mot think it is multitasking.

@SkyeNet look into what i said earlier and you'll see how dumb you are if youre still using that arguement

5:08 PM

i guess our organs should stop functioning while were watching a show or gaming then

Ah - brain scans showing that the brain is literally not multitasking aren't theories. A theory would be an explanation of why a brain isn't capable of it.

"for one thing, we as a system are good at multi tasking, im not making any kind of outrageous claims about being able to do 10 things at once like some meta-human so dont straw man me. im just saying i can go out back (in the wonderland) and do things if im not specifically being paid attention to"

Oh my

which was an answer to a question someone else asked

So, you do not agree this is multitasking?

5:10 PM

We are talking about consciously doing something, which you do not consciously operate your heart beating for example.

I think i know what im experiencing, and i dont think theres definitive answers for what people do and dont in this community, and for anyone to state that they ultimately do isnt reasonable

...no. Dee. The central nervous system is certainly capable of doing things at once. When it comes to focused tasks that aren't muscle memory, the brain is not good at doing them simultaneously.

It is reasonable when backed up by science.

I think you believe you are experiencing it and that you have memories of doing so which are convincing to you.

i think you believe that you definitively know something you cant

It's easy to say "I think I know what I'm experiencing" even if you're just claiming to be able to cast spells on people.

However, I think that if you were hooked up to a brain scan, it would demonstrate that your brain doesn't have some additional capability that the normal human brain doesn't.

5:12 PM

That's all.

5:12 PM

If you enjoy the experience, feel free to do so.

Alright. I suppose this conversation will not be productive. You asked for a neuroscientist to back up our claims and I found one. If that is not good enough I suppose I am done.

"you think" thats my point

5:12 PM

i never asked for that, i just stated that i dont believe winter was one

5:13 PM

or had the understanding of one

Implying you wanted one. Either way, if a neuroscientist agreeing is not enough, then nothing will be.

thats entirely true because science doesnt know enough about how the brain functions for a definitive answer to that question

...tch. Alright. I know that there have been tests demonstrating this fairly simple fact about the human brain, as Harleen then went and showed. Your claim is contrary to those tests, therefore I do think that your subjective experience is not representative of the literal reality of the situation.

5:15 PM

This isn't uncommon, this isn't intended as an insult, or you being dishonest at all.

ok, i agree. thats your opinion

I would argue that it is difficult for someone to let go of a belief that they are tied so strongly to. I think that is what is happening here. I think you are rejecting fact because to you that means all of the memories you have are meaningless amd false. I understand that is scary.

I suppose.

I think youre rejecting anything that doesnt comply with your own beliefs @Beckett

It is my opinion that your opinion contradicting what is known about the human brain is wrong, since I obviously haven't put you under a brain scan.

that is your opinion

My own beliefs are based on studies and science. So, yes I am.

which i disagree with also

Dee. Do you understand that if you were correct about what is happening in the brain, I would be happy and would love to see data demonstrating this?

go look for it

Also, this is not an opinion. It is based in fact. Opinions tend to not be based in facts.

I don't believe you by default because it literally contradicts existing data.

no, its opinion

5:18 PM

shrugs as long as you can all understand its your opinions regardless and others may vary

You are using the word opinion wrong, still. Either way, I am done. Nothing will change your mind amd that is fine.

no, im not

There is data showing that the brain works in X way and you are claiming your brain works in Y way, entirely independent of my beliefs on the matter.

It is not an opinion that humans are bad at multitasking. It is a fact.

...it can't get further than an opinion than that.

so youre telling me that huge thesis specifically states about tulpa acting in wonderalnd?

5:19 PM

because if it doesnt then your interpretation of it isnt a direct fact

That is consciously multitasking, yes.

Dee: You are conscious while in the wonderland, yes? At the same time that your host is consciously doing other things in reality?

i mean, you cant seem to understand that a belief of yours isnt definitively correct and others may believe something else, so i cant help you

5:20 PM

you may aswell be trying to argue regligion

This is not faith based.

yours is

Err. Okay.

Dee?

yes?

Goodbye.

ttfn

Did you read my question?